Curse

Wild Rituals · May 02, 2009, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Just got Fixed

AngelWJedi · May 02, 2009, 02:40 AM // 02:40

grrr! i hope it didnt fix the bug. it would suck if they did

sph0nz · May 02, 2009, 02:40 AM // 02:40

It got fixed. I was enjoying Resign Wars.

Apollo Smile · May 02, 2009, 02:43 AM // 02:43

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

No more free coins folks, back to Grind Wars...

Because going into a game and hitting /resign over and over isn't grind.

Shayne Hawke · May 02, 2009, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Funny that they took such swift action to fix this, I've seen them leave bigger problems around for much longer than that.

UnChosen · May 02, 2009, 02:59 AM // 02:59

So I was leeching for the entire time of the exploit just because people are opening green gates and minion suicide and all those stuff, no point in playing legit....

Surprise! I got reported as a leech nearly every time, funny how the only time the idiots will report is when they want to exploit a bug...

Daesu · May 02, 2009, 03:04 AM // 03:04

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Originally Posted by Apollo Smile

"A new build of Guild Wars is available"

Whats funny is they kicked everyone in the outposts too so there will be no stragglers.

LOL! Looks like it is back to AB.

Wish Swiftdeath · May 02, 2009, 04:48 AM // 04:48

lol, well i got the quest done a few times xD

Red Sonya · May 02, 2009, 06:48 AM // 06:48

Anet you banned 100 people or more for using a bug exploit to get to DOA from their guild hall. I think you should ban EVERYONE who used the /resign exploit go get fast easy zashien quest faction and coins. No better yet give them all a 72 hour ban and take all their faction and coins away and make them earn it the correct way. It's the only way to be fair to the rest who played correctly.

zwei2stein · May 02, 2009, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Just another illustration of how people do NOT have interestin in playing when gaming the game nets faster results and they are there purely only for hlaf a stack of zoins.

But i wonder why people simply did not achieve some kind of pact, i.e.:

Odd factions pvp zquest: all kurzicks leave (or afk battle or sabotage, whatever), all luxons stick and fight "stragglers" that ruin things by actually wanting to play, after each round people change sides.
Even faction pvp zquest: all luxons leave, kurziks stick.

Quick, easy, fair, carebear friendly. Should stick.

I think anet should realize that giving PvP better time/effort rewards (AND rewards that that very, very grindy to get) only means that people will try to abuse hell of everything while not caring if it ruins game.

Bug John · May 02, 2009, 10:23 AM // 10:23

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Anet you banned 100 people or more for using a bug exploit to get to DOA from their guild hall. I think you should ban EVERYONE who used the /resign exploit go get fast easy zashien quest faction and coins. No better yet give them all a 72 hour ban and take all their faction and coins away and make them earn it the correct way. It's the only way to be fair to the rest who played correctly.

because you just had to type /resign to get in front of mallyx

Longasc · May 02, 2009, 10:48 AM // 10:48

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

I think anet should realize that giving PvP better time/effort rewards (AND rewards that that very, very grindy to get) only means that people will try to abuse hell of everything while not caring if it ruins game.

Exactly.

They once had the idea to be friendly to people who played GW, went away, played another game, came back...

There was also a mantra called "skill > time".

Today, they encourage spending a lot of time to get certain ranks to improve pve skills, or to get equipment packs. You get more powerful by playing GW over and over.

I always loved the LOW time requirements that came with the M:TG inspired horizontal progression model.

Today, GW shifts more and more to a standard MMO, but whereas other MMOs try to reduce and nullify grind, we even have a vertical progression model that requires a lot of time for something as simple as a bag.

Riot Narita · May 02, 2009, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Just another illustration of how people do NOT have interestin in playing when gaming the game nets faster results and they are there purely only for hlaf a stack of zoins.

But i wonder why people simply did not achieve some kind of pact, i.e.:

I think what you say is largely true... except I also think there are still quite a few people who really want to play, not just get through it as fast as possible for the reward, and repeat.

I was doing FA last night (before the exploit became known, it seems)... and it was ripping good fun. I did about a dozen matches, and in all of those I didn't see a single leech on my side - everybody was fighting, almost all matches went right to the end and some were very, very close. There was only one exception while I was playing - the opposing side all resigned... and now I know why!

Glad they fixed the bug. There is good fun to be had in FA, zcoins are the gravy.

Shayne Hawke · May 02, 2009, 04:44 PM // 16:44

It seems that they may have also addressed doubling up on the PvP bounties. I can't seem to take today's HB with one I took previously.

LoKi Foxfire · May 02, 2009, 05:43 PM // 17:43

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Originally Posted by Longasc

(snip)

It died as soon as Factions was released and EoTN pretty much was the nail in the coffin.

Also, HB today - if it weren't for the 6k Balth faction I'd never play it, ever. I was honestly hoping for AB or JQ but they like making people suffer I guess.

RED TEAM RESIGN WOO~

Imaginos · May 02, 2009, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

It seems that they may have also addressed doubling up on the PvP bounties. I can't seem to take today's HB with one I took previously.

This still doesn't fix people being able to make a throw away pvp character, do pvp quest, delete, make new one and repeat to rake in mass zcoins.

Daesu · May 02, 2009, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Anet you banned 100 people or more for using a bug exploit to get to DOA from their guild hall. I think you should ban EVERYONE who used the /resign exploit go get fast easy zashien quest faction and coins. No better yet give them all a 72 hour ban and take all their faction and coins away and make them earn it the correct way. It's the only way to be fair to the rest who played correctly.

LOL! Better yet, do a perm ban. If they mass ban everyone then nobody would be around to buy their GW2 when it launches would they? ANet is a company afterall, and profits is more important to a company than mass banning nearly everyone for their own mistake.

Why dont they just learn something from this? What do you think motivates so many people to play FA that day? Was it because we all suddenly fell in love with pvp and FA? Comon...we were "pushed" to do FA that day due to circumstances. Reality is, if it is not for the zoins, we wont have that many people playing FA, during a double faction AB weekend, in the first place. Who designed a demand for zoins into the game? ANet. If that demand wasn't there and that exploit wasn't there, many people wouldn't be playing FA that day.

If you dont want players joining FA that are not trully interested in FA, then ANet should not have the zoins FA quest. There will be fewer people in FA but at least you can be more certain that the people in FA games are trully interested in the match.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Just another illustration of how people do NOT have interestin in playing when gaming the game nets faster results and they are there purely only for hlaf a stack of zoins.

Exactly.

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But i wonder why people simply did not achieve some kind of pact, i.e.:

Odd factions pvp zquest: all kurzicks leave (or afk battle or sabotage, whatever), all luxons stick and fight "stragglers" that ruin things by actually wanting to play, after each round people change sides.
Even faction pvp zquest: all luxons leave, kurziks stick.

Quick, easy, fair, carebear friendly. Should stick.

They dont do that for the same reasons that even when the exploit was obvious, some people refuse to resign. Somehow they think that even 99.9% of their team mates are not interested in the match and have resigned, they can still win by themselves. Of course if they are interested in wasting them losing through the match over and over it is up to them or they are just greedy for that small amount of factions.

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I think anet should realize that giving PvP better time/effort rewards (AND rewards that that very, very grindy to get) only means that people will try to abuse hell of everything while not caring if it ruins game.

Agree.

Clone · May 02, 2009, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

I think anet should realize that giving PvP better time/effort rewards (AND rewards that that very, very grindy to get) only means that people will try to abuse hell of everything while not caring if it ruins game.

I couldn't agree more. Of the people I talked to that I saw doing this, most felt they would never get the rewards they wanted (heavy equip packs for multiple characters) legitimately. I can't say that I condone what was going on because of how it disrupts the people who actually want to play there, but I really don't disagree with their motivation. When you put such grind behind items that add functionality to your characters, this is what you get.